Monday, 12 August 2013

Harassment Probe Councillor Accused of 'Inaccuracies'.



FORMER COUNCIL LEADER Tory Bob Lanzer was attacked over the weekend by old foe & colleague Cllr Karl Willamson for not painting a full picture and "inaccuracies" in his resignation statement, tbg can reveal.

Lanzer said last week - "Now that the police and party investigations against me have ended without any charges, cautions or suspensions respectively, this is the right time to stand down and allow the council to move forward under a new Leader." The Crawley councillor said he decided to step down after the police investigation "ended without any charges, cautions or suspensions".

The councillor neglected to mention that he and now ex-Tory Cllr Williamson had received a Police Information Notice (PIN), which means the accusations of harassment he faced by Williamson will stay on police record for referral if any complaints are made in future.

This has led to local headlines accusing Clr Lanzer of "misleading people".

A local Crawley resident has publicly stated - "He didn't mislead, he blatantly failed to tell the whole story to put himself in a better light but, hey, he is a Tory, so obviously the truth is a vague concept."

A local Conservative Party member told tbg - "Well isn't this turning into Bobgate."

Cllr Lanzer admitted in local press that it "would have been better" to mention the issuing of the PINs in his statement.

121 comments:

Anonymous said...

Come on TBG, this is getting silly now. This is simply a bitter and vindictive Williamson stirring more sh*t after his malicious and false accusation against Lanzer was dismissed.

The police stated to them both that the PIN notice should remain confidential. Had Lanzer broken that confidence (like Williamson did!) He would have been accused of breaking that confidence - so he was in a no-win situation.

Lanzer is totally innocent, move on!

Richard W. Symonds said...

Innocent people dont get a police information notice so clearly he has been up to no good and has misled the public. What other lies has he been telling us all. Maybe all this could have moved on but you have posted your sh*t above which then drags this out for another week. Maybe Duncan Crow and the rest of the cast of muppets should just stop posting on here instead of having a dig at Karl at every chance.

alison burke said...

For goodness sake - let this go now will you.
Most people are sick to death of hearing about this, and others are using it as a tool to bash people with.
Personally - I am sick to the back teeth of it all - I do not care who was right and who was wrong. There was obviously something happening that needed to be resolved in private...but others decided it would be in the public interest to know all about it.

Richard W. Symonds said...

I think you are in serious denial of the bigger picture Mrs Burke.

The personal issues are a distraction and a diversion - and you know it.

As for the "Richard W. Symonds" (who is not me) above, would you please stop being a twat - you are preventing people from seeing the bigger picture.

That's probably your intention.

Richard W. Symonds said...

I am the real Richard W. Symonds and will not tolerate being called a twat by Richard W. Symonds.

You are pretending to be me to make me look foolish.

Alison burke said...

Mr Symmonds (if that really is you, if not then stop being a coward and use your own name) I completely understand the bigger picture, however I do not care. There are certain people in the conservative group that do not deserve my consideration, time, or even my after thoughts. All of this is just complete rubbish, nothing more than children scoring points in a playground.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Mrs Burke (& I can assure you it is really me)(in blue not black) - but how do I know you are the real Ali Burke (Lee's wife)? - if you understand the bigger picture (which I seriously doubt), then you would understand that bullies, in any playground of any size, are dangerous. Out-of-control bullies are beyond dangerous.

If you understand the bigger picture, then you know who those out-of-control bullies are.

Just complaining doesn't rid the playground of bullies.

You have to stop them by other means.

Alison Burke said...

Mr Symonds,

Do you know me? No. Have you ever even spoken to me? No.therefor Do not presume to tell me what I do or do not understand.

Karma is a wonderful thing. Those that treat others badly ALWAYS get their come uppance in the end.

Bullies are cowards. Bullies that will not put their proper names against slanderous comments are also cowards.

And yes Lee is my husband, is a Conservative and always will be. Unlike others I am not afraid to put my name against any comments that I make!

Richard W. Symonds said...

I presume, and assume, nothing Mrs Burke.

But sometimes I have to make judgements on what someone says and/or does - we all do...especially when we have to vote at an election.

When someone says, as you do, "I completely understand the bigger picture", I have to make a judgement about that person.

When someone says, as you do, "I have joined UKIP", I have to make a judgement about that person.

Crawley mason watch said...

You are all missing the bigger picture. Even the astute Mr Symonds has missed it. We can see the masons have now taken over Crawley ukip as well as the Crawley conservatives but you are overlooking that they also control Crawley labour. Has anyone asked Chris Oxlade, Colin Lloyd and David Shreeves about freemasonry recently?

If this is replicated at a national level then its no wonder nothing ever changes. The lodge always wins.

Richard W. Symonds said...

There are certain Councillors listed here who are Freemasons, and who have registered that affiliation in their Declaration of Interests - (c) Charitable bodies - as required by law:

http://www.crawley.gov.uk/pw/Council_Services_and_Democracy/Councillors__MPs_and_Mayor/Your_Councillor/index.htm?submit=true

As I read the law on this, and please correct me if I am wrong, if there are Councillors on this list who are Freemasons, and they have NOT registered that affiliation in their Declaration of Interests - (c) Charitable bodies - THEY ARE SERIOUSLY BREAKING THE LAW.

Richard W. Symonds said...

SOURCE

Masonic councillors to be outed

Helene Mulholland
Society Guardian, Tuesday 13 January 2004 13.52 GMT

Councillors with masonic links will in future be forced to declare their membership in order to avoid conflicts of interest in town hall decision-making.

The Standards Board for England decision potentially ends a two-year tussle under the new code of conduct over freemasons who stand as councillors.

When the code was first introduced in April 2001, an argument erupted over whether elected councillors should be made to reveal their freemasonry on the register of interests.

The matter was subsequently left to local authorities, which have the powers to strengthen the code locally. Some councils decided to introduce this requirement, while others declined.

There are 300,000 freemasons in England and Wales, although the number of councillors who belong to the organisation remains unknown.

The standards board has now issued guidance confirming that membership of the Freemasons must regularly be declared under the councillors' code of conduct, under the auspice of its charitable activities.

Under the code councillors must disclose their charity membership on the register of interests.

The guidance was issued after the united grand lodge admitted that part of freemasons' annual subscription fee to their lodges goes to the Freemasons' Grand Charity, which ranks as the second biggest charity donor, second only to the national lottery.

The standards board issued a statement which states: "Freemasons must register membership of their freemason lodge on the register of interests and, where appropriate, declare their membership as a personal or prejudicial interest before, or during, council meetings."

The united grand lodge retorted by accusing the standards watchdog of singling out its members.

UGL media manager and grand officer Chris Connop, said: "It is more a matter of principle and the fact that we are being singled out and being targeted. There are other organisations that are not being mentioned. You do not have to declare the golf club you belong to, yet a lot gets decided on golf courses. We think this is based on ignorance and prejudice and a misunderstanding of what freemasons stand for.

"When we become freemasons, we promise we will not use our membership for professional or financial gain. We can get thrown out for doing it."

A legal challenge had not been ruled out, he added. "This has never been tested in court," he said. "I certainly do not think this is something we would let rest."

Anonymous said...

@10.03. How many prosecutions have you seen for councillors failing to admit being a freemason? I expect it will be zero because the answer is also likely to be zero. The police and cps are probably also fertile territory of them. It's the oldest old boy network going and it transcends normal politics so you can easily have a hidden group that sits within various political groupings. This is why we have had the same government running the country since 1979 with the differences only being cosmetic and superficial. Crawley council where this issue has been highlighted will be no different.

Crawley mason watch said...

"The Lodge always wins." When you accept that reality, the murky haze will lift and everything will become crystal clear.

Simon said...

Duncan Crow and Richard Symonds are both Masons

The Northern Godfather said...

Are there any tories in Crawley these days? Next the freemasons will set up their own party... Masonic Independents.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Sorry to disappoint you Simon, I am not a Freemason.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Oh yes I am

Richard W. Symonds said...

Surreal and extremely weird. Please get medical help.

Owen Richards said...

Councils are allowed to interpret the guidance on declarations of interest on an individual basis. Crawley advises that Councillors declare any membership of the Freemasons but they do not make in compulsory.

It is a classic privacy verses openness argument. On balance, I feel privacy should outweigh openness for something like this that Councillors do outside of the Council.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Owen, you obviously haven't been following the 14-year battle with developers for 'West of Ifield".

Richard W. Symonds said...

Here is Crawley Borough Council's official position - received today - which suggests the Council very, very strongly advises its Councillors to register a masonic affiliation in their Register of Interests:

"A member has a personal interest in any business of the Council where either it relates to, or is likely to affect, any body directed to charitable purposes.

"Overall, Freemasons are not singled out by the Code. The Code applies to
membership of any body that is directed to charitable purposes. Freemasons who
are members of The Grand Charity must register membership of The Grand Charity in their register of members interests.

"If an individual Lodge is one which has charitable status, or could be described as a body directed towards charitable purposes, then membership of that Lodge would also need to be registered."

Anonymous said...

Richard, you do know I hope that Mr Double-Barrel is on the tory party parliamentary candidates list?

Richard W Symonds said...

Re: MARSHALL-ASCOUGH (CON) - MASONIC WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHIN
Postby RichardWSymonds » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:17 pm

RWS COMMENT 1

For the high-level Masons (ie above the Master Mason 3rd degree to 33
degrees), it's all about CONTROL (not ownership). So my guess is they
are 'backing both sides' for the elections in 2014 (local) & 2015
(national)(Rothschilds did exactly that in the US elections, backing
both McCain and Obama)("The House Always Wins").

Locally, they need Bob Lanzer (& Claire Denman)
out of the way, as they are not Masons. They've forced Lanzer out, but
Denman seems to be sticking at it until May. Expect a nasty 'war'
between Leader Claire Denman & "Wannabe Leader" & Mason Marshall-Ascough.

The Masons need a Tory Mason in place for next May (local) and 2015
(general) elections.
It doesn't look good for the ToryCons (locally & nationally), so the
Masons need a UKIP in place (locally & nationally) as 'insurance'.

Locally, they are backing Karl Williamson (already a councillor), Lee
Gilroy (former councillor) and Ali Burke (husband is a Masonic councillor).

That's how I see it at the moment. It's all about power and control for
the masons (locally & nationally) - achieved covertly.

But they are being exposed (eg Masonic Welbeck in the 'West of Ifield'), so they
might resort to desperate measures (eg 'false-flags', propaganda,
mis-information, dis-information, distraction, diversion via the media
- which they control - and worse).

The Argus 'death threat' is, I'm pretty sure, a manufactured piece of dis-information by the masons.
With that said, they are more than capable of far, far worse. Their
power is under serious threat (eg by local exposure) - and they will do
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Re: MARSHALL-ASCOUGH (CON) - MASONIC WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHIN
Postby RichardWSymonds » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:27 pm

RWS COMMENT 2

My 'take' at the moment (subject to change) is that Karl Williamson - "only a kid really" - has made a familiar adolescent's mistake of mixing the personal (eg his sexuality) with the political (eg far-right). And, I'm pretty sure, he's being manipulated by some really nasty local Masons. This is a poisonous cocktail mix.

What's in it for Williamson?

Well, it's a 'wet dream come true'. for him. From a political nobody about to lose his Tory seat next May, this 'Total UKIP' now has his very own regular column in Crawley Observer along with the 'big boys', and getting lots of attention. It's gone to
his head, unsurprisingly, and the more outlandish his views the more attention he gets in the local media.

It will all end in tears for him I'm afraid.

Power, and its illusion, is very intoxicating. I get a little 'frisson' of that power when I stand as a local Independent at election time - "the silly season" I call it. Suddenly, the local newspapers are interested in me and what I have to say! I have to remind myself - quite forcefully - such attention is illusory.

Politics is a dirty game. If he goes too far, UKIP will spit him out - and his employer, Virgin,
will be none too pleased with either. The masons will disown him too.

I almost feel sorry for him - but not quite.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Well done, my little Alter-Ego, you can 'copy and paste'.

Yes, that is me - from my website Gatwick City of Ideas - posted last night.

If you want to get something right again, would you please post under your own name, and stop using mine.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of nut jobs. The Conservative party have reached a new low posting crap on here about the masons to deflect from Bobgate and Cowdray. Duncan Crow has always wanted to be leader but because he is so far fight and facist he has never had the chance. Now he has his chance after getting rid of his mate Bob and know discrediting liam to make himself look the only credible candidate for leadership.

We all know he is dodgy and has a sinister side to him. Well known for his walks in the woods. It's about time the corrupt people get kicked out and decent people like Richard Symonds and Simon Darroch get elected.

Anonymous said...

he councils Declarations of Interest register is so badly enforced as to be a joke. Karl Willamson has not updated his since he changed party overnight - hence while it still refers to his Tory Party membership!

Simon Darroch. said...

@ 209. I would agree but Crawley conservative councillors have voted against me going on the candidates list because they believe I am an enemy to the party. Nothing could be further from the truth. I wanted bob kicked out and the others punished for their involvement. They've all stuck together and think that they've won but they havnt because honesty will always be the best Policey.
And now they are so desperate to hold their places they they will do anything including stabbing each other in the back and it's all because of money.
If you get in as a borough cllr you get an allowance. Then you get yourself a chair of a committee then onto cabinet and then a county councillor and these all get an increment or allowance and this all goes to being a good wage. And if your young it can mean you not having to hold diwn a proper job. And if your beyond retirement age you still can carry on getting a reasonable amount whilst being classed as retired.
Which actually is fine until you start putting this money first before the responsibilities of the position you hold. When you end up doing a minimum amount and avoid contact with the public and the media and bury all and any transparency it then becomes a problem.
And that's what I've done and now I'm being bullied and discredited because of it. And where's our mp. In the states on holiday.

When I made a complaint about bob to Cchq on jun 5th they asked area to ask the chairman to ask bob to stand down and Henry smith fully backed it. Then blindly the group without knowing what this was all about backed bob.
They were frightened of him leaving because almost all of them would not be able to do the leaders job. And it would bring the group into disrepute which means they would all loose their positions and their easy money. And this is what it's all about.

Simon Darroch. said...

That should say what they've done not I've. How could I. I'm not a councillor.

Richard W. Symonds said...

"It's about time the corrupt people get kicked out and decent people like Richard Symonds...get elected"

Ummmmm...thank you 'anonymous'...but I think I'd rather jump into a snake-pit at the moment, than get involved in this kind of 'punch & judy' politics.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Simon D, I think your personal anima towards Cllr Lanzer & Henry Smith MP (eg regarding your 'idea') is blinding you - and others - to what is really going on...in other words, you are being used and manipulated by 'forces' more powerful than yourself.

Happens all the time - it's called 'realpolitik & the dark arts of propaganda'

Anonymous said...

I agree that simon d is a div.

He is being controlled by higher forces as he is not able to work things out himself.

So many div's

Richard W. Symonds said...

no wonder the conservative party in crawley only has 78 members (Adults)

Simon Darroch said...

Who agrees that I'm a div. Your anonymous.
And isn't this abusive and bullying. I think the comment needs to be removed.
And all these nameless comments have IP addresses. It's possible to trace you name you and then report you Duncan Crow.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Simon D, I see nothing "bullying" in any of the comments directed at you.

"Abusive" yes - but if you give it you have to take it- especially on a public forum.

I call whoever is posting under my name a "twat" - or a f#####g twat to be truthful - especially if they haven't the balls to post under their own name (but hide behind 'anonymous' or someone else's name).

"F######g" twat is "abusive" - and that is my intention.

But if I give it out, I have to be prepared to take it back.

Richard W Symonds said...

Re: MASONIC WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING AT CRAWLEY BOROUGH COUN

Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:17 pm

http://www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/news/l ... -1-5386013

Crawley Observer

Letter: Sadness over loss of Crawley council leader

Published on the 17 August 2013 08:23

It is with a tremendous sadness that I hear Cllr Bob Lanzer has resigned as Crawley Borough Council’s Leader.

Although we didn’t agree politically, I always found him to be highly professional, courteous and, above all, kind.

Bob Lanzer’s resignation as Leader will, I think, prove an immeasurable to the town.

It will also trigger a leadership battle which, although it might benefit the local opposition, it will not benefit the vast majority in the communities within Crawley.

My concern is that Cllr Lanzer’s departure as Leader will make for political instability, ill will and divisiveness and create a damaging power vacuum to be filled with goodness knows what.

I sincerely hope Cllr Claire Denman is up to the task of ensuring stability and good will - but that might be difficult as she looks likely to be moving to Pulborough with her husband Cllr John Denman.

We should not under-estimate the difficult times ahead.

Richard Symonds,

Ifield

Re: MASONIC WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING AT CRAWLEY BOROUGH COUN



RichardWSymonds

Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:32 pm

http://www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/news/l ... -1-5386074

Crawley Observer

Letter: Why the change of heart, Karl?

Published on the 18 August 2013 08:28

Examination of the Minutes of the Council meeting of April 3 show that Cllr Karl Williamson, (who defected to UKIP), voted FOR the Spare Room Subsidy (the so called bedroom tax) to be applied by the Council in full. He was even praised by George O'Keefe and Lee Gilroy in their sneaky 'report' on Councillors at that Council meeting, for defending the Government's policy in debate.

In your current issue (August 7) Cllr Williamson calls the Spare Room Subsidy 'a disgraceful tax which should be scrapped’.

I wonder when Cllr Williamson had his ‘Road to Damascus’ moment which changed his view of this policy.

Perhaps it occurred when polls suggested that the policy was not universally popular with voters and he could gain by stepping onto a passing bandwagon.

Residents may be concerned that he may say one thing and a few days later say the opposite.

I leave your readers to decide.

Cllr Alan Quirk,

Broadfield South Ward

Owen Richards said...

Apparently williamson's multiple malicious complaints against 12 tory councillors have also all been thrown out as well his original complaint against lanzer. Why has this disgraced former tory been given his own column in the crawley observer? No ukip councillor has ever been elected in crawley and never will. Had he joined the bnp would the crawley observer have done this?

Richard W. Symonds said...

It appears my alter-ego "Richard W. Symonds" (in black) has not heeded my advice to seek urgent medical help.

Please stop being a f#####g twat, and start posting under your own name, under 'anonymous'...or under 'twat'.

Whilst I have no objection someone 'copying & posting' from my Gatwick City of Ideas Forum, I do object to 'made up' insertions by said twat - and I'm sure Cllr Alan Quirk would object too:

"HE WAS EVEN PRAISED BY GEORGE O'KEEFE AND LEE GILROY IN THEIR SNEAKY 'REPORT' ON COUNCILLORS AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING, FOR DEFENDING THE GOVERNMENT'S POLICY IN DEBATE"

That comment did not - repeat not - appear in Cllr Quirk's original letter in the Crawley Observer.

F#####g twat.

Crawley mason watch said...

UKIP are viewed with deep suspicion by those of us who have fought racism and prejudice since the days of the NF. The far-right have a habit of changing vehicles through which to sprout their hate.

Freemasons were not thought to be widespread in the now almost defunct BNP but they are thought to be in UKIP. This creates a toxic mix of the far-right, Freemasons, and the more disreputable elements of the Conservatives who have swelled UKIP's numbers by defecting to them in droves.

not Richard W Symonds said...

@10.27. Have you seen the original un- edited letter before it was printed by the Crawley Observer? No? I thought not.

Simon D said...

Duncan crow and richard symonds you have both destroyed this blog and all becuase of your far right facist ideology. Duncan wants to eveict all council tenants and Richard symonds want more houses built in ifiled green against the will of the local residents. they should both step down as councillors

Richard W. Symonds said...

I can't speak for Cllr Crow, Simon D, but it would really help your case - in my case - if I was a far-right fascist ideologist. I am not - nor am I a councillor.

Anonymous said...

What a load of sh*t simon

Anonymous said...

You go on and on and its total rubbish

Anonymous said...

Another day filled with pride in Crawley.

Also we may need a new net law crawley's law, it is the same as Godwin's law but with Nazis swapped with Masons

Richard W. Symonds said...

Godwin's Law suggests if someone in an online discussion introduces Hitler, Nazis, Masons, Rothschilds or Zionists into their argument, they are losing the argument.

Can't see much evidence of that to be honest - quite the opposite in fact.

There is Symonds Law - just made it up - that suggests anyone who introduces Godwin's Law into an online
discussion is wanting to stop further discussion because it's getting too close to the truth.

Simon D said...

Are you saying that duncan is a nazi ?

Anonymous said...

The truth Richard W? Sussex area Conservative chairman Maria Caulfield backed Lee Gilroy, Karl Williamson and George O'Keefe against the Crawley Conservative association members who were being subjecting to on-going bullying on their ego-driven power trip, such as making up bogus claims of sexual harassment.

She was caught lying red-handed in an email to all Crawley Conservative councillors, claiming that 'councillor contracts' were mandatory from CCHQ and that the official CCHQ wording stated "the chairman and deputy chairman political can de-select councillors at any time." CCHQ confirmed this was bullshit and that it had been locally written as well as not being mandatory. Williamson wrote an email saying any councillor not signing this 'contract' by July 1st, that gave him and Gilroy absolute power, would be de-selected. Caulfield disgracefully backed this action as well as shamefully backing them when the motion of no confidence was presented.

Anonymous said...

Maria Caulfield is the partner of Steve Bell who is a member of the party board at CCHQ and a Freemason of a very high degree. Crawley were fighting against some very powerful forces.

Anonymous said...

@9.17. She famously got into hot water here in Brighton when the Argos found out she was claiming to live in Caerphilly during the general election campaign where she was standing for parliament, while also a councillor for Moulcoomb and Bevendean. She then claimed she was living both here and in Caerphilly. She lost in Caerphilly 2010 and then lost her council seat in 2011.

Richard W. Symonds said...

From : XXX via Email
To : Richard W. Symonds

Nothing really new Richard....

What is interesting is that the debate appears to be getting more heated. 'Who' is this Crawley mason watch? He/She made an interesting and astute comment that everyone in Crawley and Horsham should take seriously.

"The Lodge always wins. When you accept that reality, the murky haze will lift and everything will become crystal clear."

It is now blatantly obvious that there is deep corruption....the corruption...stems from Ifield Golf Club and the powerful Masonic Cabal that hide behind it's 'respectable' frontage.

Anonymous said...

I agree and Duncan Crow is a high ranking mason and now he is about to become leader of the Council. The people of Crawley should be in fear. The reason it's not on his declaration of interests in because the hierarchy in CBC are also masons.

Richard W. Symonds said...

"The House Always Wins"

I suspect the high-level Masons are playIng both sides for the elections (local & national) -supporting both Tories and UKIP....much like Rothschilds did with Democrat Obams and Republican McCain in the last-but-one presidential election.

Anonymous said...

I agree with that Richard.

Do you think that Duncan Crow and someone from UKIP will battle it out for the Masonic control of Crawley.

Richard W. Symonds said...

I have no evidence Cllr Crow is a Freemason, so I can't answer that properly.

I always thought it was a legal requirement for a Councillor to declare his Masonic affiliation in their Register of Interests. But apparently such declaration is not legally compulsory - only very, very strongly recommended.

I'd be surprised if he is a Mason - I don't think he has sufficient 'status' to be one - but it would come as no surprise if he was very sympathetic to the cause.

Obviously, if Cllr Crow became CBC Leader that would probably be sufficient 'status' to be accepted.

UKIP hasn't much of a hope in Crawley - anyone with a brain knows it's just the 'BNP in suits', to the far right of the Tories. If UKIP have any sense, they'll get shot of Karl Williamson (& Lee Gilroy) pronto - but there's little evidence UKIP has much sense.

blog said...

The above comment labelled as from 'Owen Richards' was not posted by me.

I disagree with the basis of it - I believe that people should be fully open on declarations of interest, and membership of an organisation like the masons should be declared. Local Authorities who do not insist upon it are wide open to abuse

blog said...

Neither of the comments made under my name (Owen Richards) above were made by me. I disagree with the tenor of both of them:

1) I have no opinion on whether the allegations made by Cllr Williamson are malicious, and quite frankly do not care.

2) I don't think that freemason membership is a matter of privacy. Unfortunately, history has shown that masons have abused local politics, and so it is perfectly reasonable for them to declare membership - and local authorities that do not require it should be wary.

3) The main issue really is that while Crawley faces some very important challenges, the ruling group on the Council and their 'friends' have been engaged in stupid personal spats. Ably assisted by morons trolling the internets.

Anonymous said...

10 Freemason Secrets

The Freemasons are one of the most secretive and controversial religious groups in the world. Masons have existed for centuries – and if we are to believe their claims, they’ve existed covertly for even longer. 

Whatever their history, speculation has always been an enjoyable pastime – and this is especially true in the case of the Masons’ more scandalous secrets. Having passed down traditions and secrets from one generation of initiates to the next, they make it difficult to know what’s outdated and what’s still practiced. Consider these ten masonic activities as provisional facts – we don’t know for sure, but it’s always an interesting exercise to imagine what might be going on behind our backs.



10. They will not testify truthfully against each other


Freemasons are commanded not to testify truthfully when another Mason is on trial. They admit that it may be perjury, but to them, it is a far greater sin to not protect one of their own.



9. They have a secret handshake


Though some members deny it to the public, the Freemasons have at least one secret masonic handshake. Supposedly, there are even phrases a Freemason can utter when facing grave danger – causing other members to rush to their aid. The founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith, is said to have uttered this phrase in the last moments before his death.



8. They have several secret passwords


This is one of the best-known facts about the Masons, but the general perception is that they have just one password. In fact, there are several passwords for various occasions and reasons. As the one person with the final syllable for the ultimate secret word was murdered, they substituted “mor-bon-zi” for this word, and only very few people know the actual secret word. This secret word is used only for ceremonies: “tu-bal-cain” is the more common secret password, on the tip of every Freemason tongue.




7. Their rituals involve a noose


The initiation rituals- though described by Masons as beautiful ceremonies – include a noose. It’s hard to tell whether this is meant as a threat, a call to maintain silence, or simply as the symbol of an umbilical cord (as they claim), but in any case, it’s unusual enough to warrant a mention. 



6. They’re obsessed with the sun


Freemasons believe that the east symbolizes rebirth. They sing the sun in its flight – marvelling at its passage through the sky. Masonic lodges tend to be built in the east and in the west, as an attempt to control solar power for their own purposes.




5. Masons exclude atheists


It’s impossible to become a Freemason if you’re an atheist. The first requirement is that potential members must believe in a higher power of some sort. They claim not to care what higher power that is, but you must define it for yourself. You can lie about it, but religion seems to be a point of honor among them. On the other hand, traditionally excluded groups – such as gay men – are included in Masonry, so long as they behave in the same moral manner as other groups. The temple still excludes women, but some groups are currently challenging that fact.




4. They work to control politics and finance in various countries


The official corruption of Masonry is well-documented, but often covered up. Half a million Masons in England are disproportionately involved in banking, politics, and government. Even hospitals and universities are often controlled by the Masons.




3. Their symbol is on the dollar bill


If you’ve ever looked closely at the US dollar bill, you’ve probably seen the All-Seeing Eye above the pyramid. This symbol is a Freemason symbol, and the Latin underneath is a Freemason motto, meaning “new world order”.


2. Anders Breivik was a Mason


Breivik – responsible for the 2011 mass murder in Norway – was a member of the Lodge of St. Olaf in Oslo. He was promptly excluded – but his degree of involvement within the organization is open for debate. 



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Anonymous said...

How to expose Masonic Councillors and similar Public servants

It'd be very easy to just scan a bunch of Masonic year books and say "Here's a list of all the UK's Freemasons" but it wouldn't be a great deal of help in telling us which Public servant we need to keep an eye on, lest they try to lie, cheat or steal from the "Profanes" (us non-masons); or whether a Judge / Policeman / Councillor might be turning a blind-eye to the crimes of his brothers. Plus, we have very little interest in exposing someone who (for example) works in a factory, enjoys dressing up in an apron and has almost no potential to abuse his position.

First, you need to know who the prominent Public servants are - links to all the UK's local council's Councillors webpages have been provided below:

Second, you need a list of Freemasons - This is more difficult - since year books aren't generally available to the public, although they do occasionally turn up in second hand bookshops, and a few Masonic websites don't check if you're a Freemason before you place your order.

n.b. Sometimes you might just get lucky and find a picture of your Freemason in his costume, or a newspaper report of scandals that he's been involved in, simply by running the names of your local Councillors through a Google search, or Google News Archive. If you have access, you might also try other commercial online services such as NewsBank or Gale NewsVault.

Third, you just need to set aside a little time to look up your Local Councillors, Council Officers (or similar Public servants) in the yearbook covering the district in which they operate.

Fourth, publish the names you've identified, so that other people can be extra careful when dealing with these members of the Masonic organization.

Fifth, once you're aware of the Freemasons in your area, you might want to do a careful search through Google and other News services, to see if they have been giving their fellow Freemasons preferential treatment in the past, or have ignored crimes committed by their associates at the local Masonic lodge, etc.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Who is the President and Vice-President of Crawley Conservative Association?

Alan Quine used to be President, as I understand it.

Anonymous said...

Bob Lanzer is the president of the Crawley conservative association

Richard W. Symonds said...

Who is the Vice President?

Richard W. Symonds said...

Don't worry. I've found out myself by looking at the Crawley Conservative Association website (Bob Lanzer is not President of the Association - unless the website is mistaken or out-of-date)(Which is it 'Anonymous'?):

http://www.crawleyconservatives.org.uk/people

Alan Quine is the President of the Crawley Conservative Association.

Richard Burrett is a Vice President of the Crawley Conservative Association.

Duncan Crow is a Vice President of Crawley Conservative Association.

George O'Keefe is the Deputy Chairman Membership and Fundraising of the Crawley Conservative Association.

Brenda Burgess is the Secretary of the Crawley Conservative Association.


OK - a lot of chiefs here :

Lee 'Gilboy' was Chairman (but now buggered off to UKIP). Who is now Chairman?

Karl 'Walliamson' was Deputy Chairman (but now buggered off with Lee Gilboy to UKIP). Who is now Deputy Chairman?

Bob Lanzer was Leader - but 'called it a day' - so there's a 'Wannabe Leader' battle, as Deputy Leader Claire Denman (who is now temporary Leader) doesn't want the 'poisoned chalice' of Leader for personal reasons.

Ummmmm....I'm off to the pub.

Crawley mason watch said...

Crawley Councillors have been put into various grouping depending on their Freemasonry or links to it. This is not an exact science - a margin of error does exist.

A. Admitted and declared. (3)

B. Almost certainly. (5)

C. Probably. (8)

D. Unknown. (6)

E. Not likely. (7)

F. Very unlikely. (8)

Richard W. Symonds said...

8 = Admitted, Declared & Almost Certainly

8 = Very unlikely

8 v 8 = Big Problem

Anonymous said...

The Masons have been around for hundreds of years and will be around for hundreds more. We will never be defeated and we will control everything from the police, politics, justice, every level of local government.

Those who slander Freemasons watch out as next time you go into hospital the surgeon could be a mason, the next time you are caught for drink driving or hanging out in a cottage the judge or magistrate will definitely be a mason.

This website is monitored by Grand Lodge and Mr Symonds we are watching you

Richard W. Symonds said...

And I am watching you - and be assured I am not alone.

How To Deal With Bullies - 10 Steps

http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Bullies

Anonymous said...

I think we know who the bully @10.07 is.

Richard, you are indeed not alone and have some new friends who also despise bullying and corruption, and have seen masons and their followers in a new light.

I think Crawley mason watch's numbers need revising downwards. I heard there is a backlash at Crawley council against being subvertly controlled by masons.

Anonymous said...

I hear Howard bloom is a mason but is worried about the backlash. Someone needs to ask him ?

Richard W. Symonds said...

The thing is I don't feel any personal animosity against Freemasonry and Freemasons up to Master Mason (3rd Degree) level. They do good work - and I know one Mason locally for whom I have enormous respect.

The trouble seems to start after the 3rd Degree.

I start getting more than annoyed when these higher-level Masons appear to ride roughshod over legal democratic processes to which the rest of us have to abide.

Anonymous said...

@1.08 I agree the bully is clearly obvious

Richard W. Symonds said...

Not to me

Anonymous said...

Think carefully mr Symonds

Who hacked into your website and had it shut down ?

Who will be the new leader of the council ?

Who has the most to gain from bob lanzer going ?

Richard W. Symonds said...

Yes, I know who was (ir)responsible for getting the 5-year Olde Gatwick City of Ideas totally wiped - so I can guess who you mean.

But I need proof of certain matters - 100% proof - which satisfies a non-Masonic Court of Law - and/or CBC Legal & Democratic Services.

Without that proof & evidence, I can't name names. If I name names without proof, I'll be taken to Court for libel - and rightly so.

If you can provide me with proof, you know where you can find me.



Anonymous said...

EXCLUSIVE: 'No Confidence' Tory Deputy Chair' Makes Bullying Complaint Against 12 Councillors Over Vote.

Following Friday evening's Landslide No Confidence vote against Crawley Conservative Association Chairman Lee Gilroy and Deputy Chairman Political Karl Williamson, a further development has rocked Crawley's troubled Conservatives.

All 12 Crawley Conservative Councillors who had signed the No Confidence motion, are said to have received an official letter in the post on Saturday morning from Crawley Borough Council. The letter supposedly states that Cllr Karl Williamson has made a Standards complaint, sensationally claiming that the signing of the No Confidence motion constitutes an act of bullying and therefore breaks the Councillor Code of Conduct.

Cllr Williamson who had lost the Landslide No Confidence vote as Deputy Chairman Political just hours earlier amid allegations of bullying, has already made a sexual harassment complaint against Council leader Bob Lanzer to CCHQ and some weeks later, subsequently made the same complaint to Sussex Police.

It is also alleged that Williamson has threatened to bring his own No Confidence vote to this Wednesday's Full Council meeting in Crawley, against Council leader Bob Lanzer and four members of his Cabinet who had signed the Association No Confidence petition against him. However, so far this has apparently not yet materialised. tbg plans to dispatch a reporter to attend this meeting where sparks are bound to fly.

A tbg local source said - "It looks like an emerging pattern, in that whenever Cllr Williamson appears not to get his way, a tantrum is thrown and complaints or threats happen. In any field, there must come a time when multiple complaints become regarded as vexatious complaints, often by someone with personal issues."

As tbg writes, Karl Williamson and Lee Gilroy have not yet resigned their positions. It was reported that neither had attended the Special General Meeting.

-----------------------------------

Looks to me like all the answers are on this blog if you weed out the red herrings designed to confuse. This looks key to the whole thing - The 12 councillors were: 2 x Denman, Bloom, Boxall, Brockwell, R Burgess, Crow, Cumper, Eade, Peck, Quirk, and Trussell.

9 Councillors who did not sign: 2 x Blake (could not as Horsham members), B Burgess (Association secretary arranging the meeting), Lanzer (had complaint pending at the time), Burrett (chaired the meeting), Burke (Freemason), Marshall-Ascough (Freemason), Walker (Freemason), Williamson (Freemason).

Anonymous said...

Will Richard work out who is feeding him the truth and who is feeding him red herrings?

It was all about the seizing of power and a ego-trip of control over others. Make no mistake - we are talking about delusional megalomaniacs with personality disorders at the inner core of this group. Some remain within the party but they have been rumbled and weakened. Maria Caulfield has apparently now been sacked by CCHQ as Sussex Area Chairman, so things are looking better all the time.

Richard W. Symonds said...

I'm astonished at the fear - posting as "anonymous" is a reflection of that.

It's difficult to discern 'truth' from the 'red herring' when so many involved are so scared.

It would help if those seeking truth, rather then preventing truth to be known, didn't post as 'Anonymous'.

I'm (think) I'm getting the general picture - which is not a pretty one.

All I can say is that I will fight as hard as I can to prevent a far-right extremist from becoming Leader of Crawley Borough Council.

Richard W. Symonds said...

There's certainly a pungent 'Billingsgate Aroma' coming from the general direction of Ifield Golf Club.

This might have something to do with it:

"Welbeck has entered into a 15-year Option Agreement (to 2026 - Ed) with Ifield Golf Club in a joint venture with Wates Development and Rydon Homes. This site is being actively promoted and it is anticipated it will be allocated for residential development within two years"
(Source : Crawley News - January 2011)

Welbeck Land are a giant masonic corporation (see its company logo - bit of a give-away), and their West of Ifield 3500 housing proposal (which included the 'disappearance' of Ifield Golf Club) has just been totally 'blown out of the water' by Horsham District Council.

Anonymous said...

I think many people do not know what is really happening in Crawley and who it is that actually controls the councillors. Freemasons, yes. But also a small cabal of dishonest and greedy men that hide behind a seemingly respectable golf club in Ifield. That is where the corruption stems from.

Anonymous said...

Is this anything to do with simon darroch being thrown out of the mayors party

Richard W. Symonds said...

"Ifield Golf Club Ltd Secretary, Richard Dawborn, said:

'...there's lots of rumours going around at the moment, lots of people stirring things up" (Crawley Observer, August 15)

It makes me wonder why...

Richard W. Symonds said...

Someone has just asked me why.

Well, let's put it this way. If I was a long-standing member of Ifield Golf Club - who loved his golf and the golf course - don't you think I might be a tad upset if I discovered (as hundreds of members are now discovering) that the 'owners' who control the golf club had secretly negotiated with giant masonic developers Welbeck to concrete over the golf course with 2500 houses?!

(Sources : Horsham District Planning Framework Report - August 2013 + "Consortium eyes up golf land for homes - Developers want to concrete over Ifield golf club" - April 15 2009, Crawley Observer + "Wreaths laid for threatened golf course", August 15 2007)

Richard W. Symonds said...

"Development at Ifield would result in the loss of an existing golf course"

~ Horsham District Planning Framework - Interim Sustainability Appraisal - Environmental Report of the Preferred Strategy - Non Technical Summary - Page 7 - August 2013 (available at Horsham Library - Ist Floor)

Richard W. Symonds said...

I'd like to be ta 'fly in the room' of the next Trust meeting of Trustees who own Ifield Golf Club's land - but I'm likely to be swatted!

Anonymous said...

Interesting to note that, apart from Richard's comments, it's gone very quiet since Ifield Golf Club was mentioned.

George O'Keefe said...

@3.09 That is because no one could care less about anything he has to say. He should keep his talking to himself on his own blog and not here. The golf club is none of his business as he is not a member and he lives nowhere near it. I am a proud member and live right next door to it.

Anonymous said...

@George - Can you tell me the name of the Treasurer of Ifield Golf Club? I have a question I'd like to ask him. Thanks. (PS. Not the chairman or secretary., but The 'Treasurer').

Anonymous said...

Anyone care to speculate how much money Richard Coppen (also known as 34&rising from Gatwick City of Ideas) will make if Ifield Golf Course is sold for housing?

Anonymous said...

@5.20. You know full well it is George's Dad so stop asking silly questions trying to insinuate something untoward.

Richard W. Symonds said...

'Boy George', you say "He (presumably myself) should keep his talking to himself on his own blog (presumably Gatwick City of Ideas), and not here"

My suggestion to you is to grow up - this is politics for 'grown-ups'.

And if you are so close to Ifield Golf Club - I understand they take under-age caddies - then perhaps you can tell us the Treasurer of the Trust which owns and controls the Golf Club - and you.

Richard W. Symonds said...

@6.20

Anyone care to speculate that @6.20 "Anonymous" is strongly associated with Maidenbower Forum's "Templeton Peck"?

Anonymous said...

@5:39 A little 'friendly' warning. Hacking into someone's private data is a CRIMINAL offence and remember, hackers can also be hacked, especially by the police and other organisations with the legal authority to do so and without retribution. Don't worry, they know who you are and your prison sentence has already been determined. Whether or not you decide to increase that sentence is up to you.

Richard W. Symonds said...

George O'Keefe is a kid from Ifield - but he holds the
position of Crawley Conservative Association's Deputy Chairman (Funding &
Membership). Lee Gilroy was Chairman & Cllr Karl Williamson was Deputy Chairman
(& they've both 'jumped ships' to UKIP)
Alan Quine is President, and Vice President is Cllr Duncan Crow.

Anonymous said...

George O'Keefe is Acting Chairman of the Crawley Conservative Party and Chairman of Conservative Future. I don't know about his dad being involved with the Ifield Golf Club but I hear a rumour that Bob Lanzer has substantial shares in the club.

Anonymous said...

The shareholders in Ifield Golf Club won't get a penny if the land is sold. All the money will go to those members who are still there when it's sold.

George A O'Keefe said...

I do hate to disappoint, but this is my first ever post on this site and the previous post claiming to be made by me was made whilst I was at work.

I have no interest in Ifield Golf Club nor have I ever visited it. My father has no interest in golf at all. It is very easy to identify the person who wrote the previous post by the use of quoting the time then replying.

This style of reply has been used before regaully by another poster.

For the sake of clarity, I will not be commenting on this blog again. Should you wish to verify any comments claimed to be made by myself then feel free to email me. (Details on the Crawley Conservative Site).

Anonymous said...

Just to clarify, if Mr Lanzer is a shareholder in Ifield Golf Club then he won't make a penny from the sale of the Golf Course. All the money will go to the club members who are still members when the golf course is sold (which probably won't be many).

Richard W. Symonds said...

I do hate to disappoint, but how do we know you are the real "George O'Keefe"?!

That's the problem I had when people started posting using my name "Richard W. Symonds". They were not just the twats who were expressing opinions totally opposite to my own, but also the twats who were expressing opinions very similar to my own. It was - and still is - very weird and surreal.

So will the real "George O'Keefe" stand up!? Its not enough to refer someone to your email address at Crawley Conservative Association. Anybody can read that, and still pose as a bogus "George O'Keefe".

BTW, just to remind anyone who might still be interested in the truth, the real "Richard W. Symonds" is in blue - while the bogus "Richard W. Symonds" is in black.

That will hold true until a twat finds out how to post "Richard W. Symonds" in blue - but hopefully by that time most people will have found a better way to spend their precious time!

Anonymous said...

I agree with George and I will put in a complaint to Maria Caulfield if this happens again

Anonymous said...

Who gives a toss what colour this Symonds chap names appears as. How sad and pathetic that Symonds and some bloke George keep posting about a gold club. Who cares if bob Lanzer has shares or not and who cares if this is all a cover up for two councillors having a sexual relationship. We are all sick of this post

Richard W. Symonds said...

Obviously this "anonymous" hasn't been following - or has a problem keeping up.

Can anyone put the serious problem in such a way that even this naive "anonymous" child can understand ? Thank you.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Who cares?

Anyone who values democracy and freedom, globally and locally.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Who cares?

Anyone who values truth and trust.

Trust is especially important - but trust has been damaged here.

For example, I trust no-one who posts here. I do not trusts the truth of what they say, nor do I trust who they say they are.

It is deeply sad and disturbing.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Who cares ?

Anyone who doesn't like bullies to control what they think, say, and do.

Mr Richard Symonds said...

I agree with you. No one is who they appear to be and nothing they say can be believed.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Who cares ?

Anyone who values free speech, and a life with less fear.

Anonymous said...

All the comments on here are written by Richard Symonds who can be seen conversing and ranting with himself on his own blog. Just ignore him. He's nuts.

Richard W. Symonds said...

And cowardly twat to boot - who has to hide his identity (& nastiness) under 'Anonymous'.

Richard W. Symonds said...

Yes, please ignore me - but please don't ignore the truth.

Simon Darroch said...

Very angered by the fact that the Crawley Conservative Group are trying to blame Lee Gilroy Karl Williamson and myself for their group going into opposition next year.
Last June/July I attended a group meeting in the town hall and was angered to hear councillors talking about how they would deal with being in opposition !!!! And when I tried to intervene to protest at their attitude I was told by Bob Lanzer to shutup. So it's some of the councillors that have given up because most of them are useless at engaging with the public.
Council officers are talking about labour being in control labour are doing the same all because the Conservatives are too. And it will have nothing to do with Lee Karl or myself.
Bob Lanzer Richard Burrett Duncan Crow Keith and Sally Blake Lenny Walker and Vanessa Cumper all need to go. They are the enemies of the Conservative Party literally the enemy within and CCHQ and NO10 need to stand these individuals down and make them go independent or just kick them out altogether. Some of them used to be labour and some have been talking to labour recently to save their own neck. Scum. Not how Conservatives should behave.

Anonymous said...

Andrew this has been going on for over twelve months and I've personally found out recently that my ideas have been plagiarised by the ex leader and mp I've been banned from almost everything the council or mp can get me banned from. The group have refused to sign councillor contracts have defied area Cchq and have held unsanctioned sgm with votes of no confidence allowed non voting members to vote allowed non members to attend members only meetings there's no minutes to any meetings. Even though their are events being held none are on the website so no one knows about them. All the councillors all hate each other most hate the mp the mp has not got the time of day for the group.
Even now there tramping over each other for the leaders place.
And what's worse is that Cchq and area supported bob going but when they found out what these people were like they washed their hands of them and dropped people like myself Lee or Karl. Better to have crap cllrs than none !!
Which is all a shame for the good ones that their are.
Personally I've been used and abused and I'm annoyed but I'm still a conservative more than they are.
And the reason for this post. There still slagging me off to others behind my back.
I had bitten the bullet and was willing to move on but not anymore.

Simon Darroch

Richard W. Symonds said...

Will the real Cllr Duncan Crow stand up?

Will the real George O'Keefe stand up?

Will the real Simon Darroch stand up?

Will the real Cllr Karl Williamson stand up?

Will the real Lee Gilroy stand up?

Will the real Ali Burke stand up?

Will a real Freemason stand up?

Will a real Treasurer of Ifield Gold Club stand up?

Richard W. Symonds said...

"Councillor : I have not been offering deals" - 'Tory leadership rumours denied', Crawley News, August 28 2013 - Page 5

Photo : 'NO COMMENT : Bob Lanzer would not confirm or deny that he has been offered a role if he supports Duncan Crow'

Photo : NO DEALS : Duncan Crow insists he has not offered anyone a position, in exchange for their support"

Full transcript of article not yet online : crawleynews.co.uk

Richard W. Symonds said...

"COUNCILLOR : I HAVE NOT BEEN OFFERING DEALS" - 'TORY LEADERSHIP RUMOURS DENIED' - CRAWLEY NEWS, AUGUST 28 2013 - PAGE 5

A POTENTIAL candidate to become leader of Crawley Borough Council has dismissed rumours, that he has offered cabinet positions in exchange for support, as an attempt to discredit him.

Duncan Crow...insists accusations he has attempted to secure votes by offering key roles are "completely untrue"...

A source within the Conservative party claims former leader Bob Lanzer has been offered a cabinet position, or the role of chair of the overview and scrutiny commission....

The source also claims that Councillor Crow has offered current acting deputy leader Richard Burrett the role on a permanent basis, if he (Crow - Ed) is elected.

The Conservative group will vote for a new leader at a behind-closed-doors meeting on September 5.
Whoever is elected should then also become leader of the council, although given the current divisions in the group, this isn't necessarily the formality it would normally be.

No candidates have been formally announced. But Southgate councillor Liam Marshall-Ascough has publicly declared his intention to stand, while Cllr Crow is expected to throw his hat into the ring.

One source claimed : "Talk in the group is that Bob Lanzer has been offered a cabinet position, or chair of the OSC, if Duncan becomes leader.

"One thing we all know is that if Duncan becomes leader, then Richard (Burrett - Ed) will be appointed deputy leader of the council.

"Richard has done a bit of canvassing round the group asking people not to stand, so that there is unity behind one person - Duncan."

Councillor Lanzer, who stepped down as leader following the conclusion of a police investigation into traded accusations of harassment between himself and Southgate councillor Karl Williamson, would not comment.
When asked again if he denied he had been offered any roles by Cllr Crow, he only replied : "I have no comment to make on that."

Councillor Burrett, however, said there was "absolutely no truth" that there had been any deal-making behind closed doors between himself and Cllr Crow.

He also denied he had been asking Conservative councillors not to put their name forward as leader, in order to secure Cllr Crow's successful appointment.

He said : "It's not true that I have been asking anyone to do anything.

"I am deputy leader, and I am managing the election in a sense (in terms of the administrative side), and it would not be right to discuss anything like that."

Cllr Crow stressed he had not formally put himself forward to be leader, and that he is "considering whether or not to apply for the post".

On the claim of positions being promised if he is elected, he added : "This is completely untrue, and a deliberate fabrication designed to try and discredit me, in the event I were to become a candidate.

"I feel it would be inappropriate to discuss an internal contest in public, before councillors get together to discuss it."

Cllr Crow also declined a request to be interviewed about what he would do for the town, if he did become leader...

Richard W. Symonds said...

Crawley News has managed to cut through the crap:

http://www.crawleynews.co.uk/Councillor-denies-offering-positions-exchange/story-19713811-detail/story.html

not richard w symonds said...

Lol! these crawley news exclusives are funny but you haven't noticed the elephant in the room my mini-me, that the editor is believed to be a freemason and in the same lodge as liam marshall-ashgough.

Duncan Symonds said...

blessed are the greek !!

Richard W. Symonds said...

Pythonesque indeed

Anonymous said...

I miss Symonds and all the crap he comes out with

George O'Kuufee said...

So Bob Lanzer steps down as Leader of the Conservatives and is then appointed Cabinet Member for Planning and Economic Development by his best buddy and new Leader Howard "Freemason" Bloom.

All seems dodgy but maybe Cheif Inspector PCSO Peck can investigate this ?

Shame that Duncan "Internet Troll" Crow didnt get elected after all the hard work he put in to discredit his opponents.

Anonymous said...

Howard Bloom has not appointed anyone to anything. He is not the Leader of the Council.

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